Stella O’Malley is a psychotherapist, bestselling author (‘Cotton Wool Kids’, 'Bully-Proof Kids' and ‘Fragile’) and the presenter of the Channel 4 documentary ‘Trans - Kids: It’s Time To Talk’ and she works in private practice in rural Ireland. Her body of work about fear, anxiety and developing emotional resilience couldn’t be more relevant to 2020. In a long and fascinating conversation we talked about collective hysteria, becoming bored of fear, and what it’s like to be a sceptic in a society which increasingly values safety and belonging. I could have talked to her all day! .